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Blue wrote:

Stately wrote:Are you one of the many people who, like me, park your bike up on the pavement in that area between St. Andrews Cross and Drakes Circus where lot's of bikes park ?

Well apparently, that is not a designated motorcycle parking area, but has just been sort of taken over.

Can't think why It being a pavement and all. Not very defensive riding is it

there was me thinking parking on pavements was illegal everywhere and for all forms of transport

Hope not as we did today lol
I think if there's double yellow lines going up the curb onto pavement THATS when it's illegal so watch out for them fluff!!!

Shit!!!! SORRY! Deej! Don't know why I thought that was fluff, musta seen her name somewhere!

deej wrote:

Blue wrote:

Stately wrote:Are you one of the many people who, like me, park your bike up on the pavement in that area between St. Andrews Cross and Drakes Circus where lot's of bikes park ?

Well apparently, that is not a designated motorcycle parking area, but has just been sort of taken over.

Can't think why It being a pavement and all. Not very defensive riding is it

there was me thinking parking on pavements was illegal everywhere and for all forms of transport

Wrong.

"There is currently no national legislation banning the parking of all vehicles on the pavement, due to the wide range of circumstances and locations where pavement parking occurs.

Which can be found here

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/tpm/tma ... npavements

Hope that clears it up for you

There is currently no national legislation. However within the same article it says :
Rule 218 of the Highway Code says: "Do not park partially or wholly on the pavement unless signs permit it".
Also says In London, pavement parking is banned by the Greater London Council (General Powers) Act 1974, although within London there are some areas where exemptions are indicated with traffic signs. Pavement parking is also banned in other locations around the country including Exeter and Peterborough. Nationwide, the police are able to take action when a vehicle parked on the pavement is deemed to be causing an obstruction or is parked dangerously.
I came across the following info after a friend got a PCN recently :
What action does the Council take against pavement parking?
If there are waiting restrictions (yellow lines) on the highway adjacent to the pavement then a Penalty Charge Notice will be issued, since a vehicle parked in this manner is in contravention of the traffic order. Waiting restrictions cover the highway from centre of highway to back of footpath.
If there are no waiting restrictions on the highway adjacent to the pavement, then the Council has no powers to take action and this should be taken up with the Police since it constitutes an obstruction.
Taken from http://www.bournemouth.gov.uk/Residents ... arking.asp

Thanks Frag. Now stanley, Frag has cleared it up for me

cheers frag,thanks for bring a decent fact to the conversation. at the end of the day pavements are for pedestrians and the roads are for transport.

But show me the Stats!!

Frag wrote:If there are no waiting restrictions on the highway adjacent to the pavement, then the Council has no powers to take action and this should be taken up with the Police since it constitutes an obstruction.
Taken from http://www.bournemouth.gov.uk/Residents ... arking.asp

Yep
Can't disagree with that.
As you rightly point out, parking is not banned on all pavements for all vehicles

There are exceptions, and parking on pavements is not banned across the board

deej wrote:there was me thinking parking on pavements was illegal everywhere and for all forms of transport

So weather you like it or not, that statement is still wrong

never said it was factual just my thoughts

deej wrote:never said it was factual just my thoughts

Which were still wrong.

only partly wrong,correct when in exeter

Stately wrote:I've heard a rumour from a few different places, that plans are afoot to ban bikes parking there

The following may or may not be useful

Proposal to remove footway motorcycle parking in Old Town Street and implement new motorcycle parking adjacent to the Guildhall - Objections.
Committee: Devonport, Stoke, St Peter and Waterfront Area Committee.
Date: 02 September 2008.
Cabinet Member: Cabinet Member for Transport - Councillor Kevin Wigens.
CMT Member: Assistant Director of Development (Transport, Infrastructure and Engineering).
Author: Richard Symons.
Contact: Tel: 01752 307751.
email: richard.symons@plymouth.gov.uk.
Ref: TIE/RPS/06628.

This report advises Ward Members and the public of recommended relocation of motorcycle parking proposals at Old Town Street / St Andrew’s Cross / Royal Parade to improve pedestrian safety and accessibility, and provide safer and convenient on street motorcycle provision. It also reports any objections that have been received during the recent advertisement period of the traffic regulation orders.

Corporate Plan 2007-2010 :

The recommendations in this report meet the following specific objectives and targets within this plan:
• Improving health and well-being – The proposals will improve safety for Pedestrians in the area by the elimination of motorcycle parking from the footway areas. The improvement to pedestrian safety, visibility and accessibility and will improve levels of health and fitness.
• Developing an effective transport system – The proposals will create a better parking area, safer for both pedestrians and motorcyclists.
• Promote community safety – N/A.
• Maintain a Clean and Sustainable Environment – The proposals will eliminate noise and pollution levels from motorcycle parking on the footway area.

• improve health, safety and accessibility for pedestrians in the Old Town Street / St Andrew’s Cross / Royal Parade area.

• relocate motorcycle parking from the above mentioned area to new areas adjacent to the Guildhall, which will be safer and convenient.


Give this bloke a ring RICHARD SYMONS

Contact: Tel: 01752 307751.
email: richard.symons@plymouth.gov.uk.
Ref: TIE/RPS/06628.

pm me if anyone wants the whole report

Very interesting

Thanks for that Personally I'll be sorry to see it go as it is a bloody convenient place to park.

It's ashame, but reading between the lines, it does sound like another suitable area will be allocated, unlike in some places, (noteably London), where bike parking bays are being suspended without being replaced

Parking on ANY (local authority) pavement has been illegal in Exeter for some years now. Parking in the the metered on-street parking areas are allowed (without buying a ticket) so long as it is done sensibly - i.e. not parking longways in the centre of a space