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Re: Mass Rideouts

Posted: Apr 5th, '09, 23:21
by Stately
Johnnyb wrote:Thats exactly what we are saying, the last ride had around 52 bikes and as we left the car park Bambam pulled out and stopped the traffic so we all left together, exactly the situation you just described you great steaming lump of knobcheese, it keeps us all together and the people in thecars that were held up were smiling when i went past at the spectacle of it all....................
Bear in mind that unless you have special dispensation, stopping traffic on the road is illegal and can get you prosecuted.

Fine if you get away with it, but do it on front of plod and you'll get nicked.

Re: Mass Rideouts

Posted: Apr 5th, '09, 23:23
by Blue
so is filtering along zig zags at juntions as you have done. Oh no sorry you were on the cycle path

Re: Mass Rideouts

Posted: Apr 5th, '09, 23:28
by Stately
Blue wrote:so is filtering along zig zags at juntions as you have done. Oh no sorry you were on the cycle path
Zig-Zags at crossings - If a queue is due to a crossing, then you may not overtake the lead vehicle. However, you may overtake if the queue is not caused by the crossing.

Re: Mass Rideouts

Posted: Apr 6th, '09, 00:07
by sabbie
Zig-Zags at crossings - If a queue is due to a crossing, then you may not overtake the lead vehicle. However, you may overtake if the queue is not caused by the crossing. [/quote]

Not what the copper who pulled me for doing exactly that on torquay rd told me!! Queue caused by nothing more than commute traffic! u gona argue with him?
He just said overtaking lead vechicle on zigzags 'NO!' lol
And mass ridouts are tops!!!!!!! :P

Re: Mass Rideouts

Posted: Apr 6th, '09, 00:20
by Stately
sabbiezxr wrote:Zig-Zags at crossings - If a queue is due to a crossing, then you may not overtake the lead vehicle. However, you may overtake if the queue is not caused by the crossing.
Not what the copper who pulled me for doing exactly that on torquay rd told me!! Queue caused by nothing more than commute traffic! u gona argue with him?
He just said overtaking lead vechicle on zigzags 'NO!' lol
And mass ridouts are tops!!!!!!! :P[/quote]

Filtering along ziz-zags is perfectly legal, and you wouldn't be doing it anyway if there wasn't a queue :?

Technically, you are committing an offence only if you overtake the lead vehicle at the crossing.

The thing to do here, is slow down - stop - check the crossing is clear of pedestrians - have a scan around for plod, and go.

Common sense really.

Re: Mass Rideouts

Posted: Apr 6th, '09, 00:49
by sabbie
Stately wrote:Zig-Zags at crossings - If a queue is due to a crossing, then you may not overtake the lead vehicle. However, you may overtake if the queue is not caused by the crossing.


Filtering along ziz-zags is perfectly legal, and you wouldn't be doing it anyway if there wasn't a queue :?

Technically, you are committing an offence only if you overtake the lead vehicle at the crossing.

The thing to do here, is slow down - stop - check the crossing is clear of pedestrians - have a scan around for plod, and go.

Common sense really.
I did know plod was there, was a bike cop following behind me, and yes I was ignorant of the law that said don't overtake lead vechicle (not now!!) but did slow down, scan for pedestrians.. u just said it's not illegal if 'queue is not caused by crossing' SO why would I need to 'have a scan around for plod'??

Re: Mass Rideouts

Posted: Apr 6th, '09, 01:32
by Stately
sabbiezxr wrote: u just said it's not illegal if 'queue is not caused by crossing' SO why would I need to 'have a scan around for plod'??
Because you intended to overtake the lead vehicle.

It's perfectly safe provided you have established there are no pedestrians, but it is technically illegal, and you will probably get a fixed penalty if tugged.

When you overtook the lead vehicle, was the road ahead clear, or did the queue continue ?

If the road was clear, then the queue was caused by the crossing, but if the queue continued passed the crossing, then the queue was not caused by the crossing, but by the volume of traffic

Re: Mass Rideouts

Posted: Apr 6th, '09, 07:52
by billinom8s
hmm

Re: Mass Rideouts

Posted: Apr 6th, '09, 08:32
by sabbie
billinom8s wrote:hmm
lol
Fair Enough! I had drunk a bit too much last night :roll: and thought what he said was wrong but it doesn't realy matter as bike cop was nice enough to just give me a warning 8) and now I personaly won't be doing it again!! :mrgreen: 'nuff said!

Re: Mass Rideouts

Posted: Apr 6th, '09, 09:08
by bambam
i don't know why but this springs to mind

Re: Mass Rideouts

Posted: Apr 6th, '09, 13:34
by Stately
sabbiezxr wrote: Fair Enough! I had drunk a bit too much last night :roll: and thought what he said was wrong
Well you could always look up what the law is if you think I am wrong.

Easy to find.

It's not a top secret document.

Back in the early 90's, (before most of you even contemplated a bike), I was an instructor and this was one of the most commonly asked questions by students.

Filtering is such a grey area and a lot of people are unsure about the law on this.

By the way, a bit of trivia for you.

Filtering is illegal in Germany :x

Re: Mass Rideouts

Posted: Apr 6th, '09, 14:37
by Bladerunner
Just out of curiosity Stately, do you perchance happen to ride an FJS Venturer?

Re: Mass Rideouts

Posted: Apr 6th, '09, 15:04
by Johnnyb
Stately wrote:[
Back in the early 90's, (before most of you even contemplated a bike)
Thats a bit of an assumption seeing as how you haven't been on a rideout with us so have no idea what the average age is but just to set you straight i took my test in 1985 and i am sure there are more than a few on here that have as much time under their belts. So

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Re: Mass Rideouts

Posted: Apr 6th, '09, 15:09
by Stately
Johnnyb wrote: Thats a bit of an assumption seeing as how you haven't been on a rideout with us so have no idea what the average age is but just to set you straight i took my test in 1985 and i am sure there are more than a few on here that have as much time under their belts.
Because you took your test in 1985 doesn't mean a thing.

For all I know, you may have ridden a year or two, then packed it in till recently.

So have you actually been riding all that time, or like most, did there happen to be a break of 10-15 years ? :D

I reckon I know the answer :lol:

Re: Mass Rideouts

Posted: Apr 6th, '09, 16:38
by Johnnyb
The comment you wrote was 'Back in the early 90's, (before most of you even contemplated a bike)'

That was the comment to which i replied and needed no further clarification, but of course as usual that is never enough for you and you have to twist things around to suit yourself........