'Clutchless' Changes

[age]

did you use the cluch on your horse and cart gramps

[GeorgiasGrandad]

Don't mock Age. I did drive a horse and cart in the early 50s. His name was Peter, he was a hunter (the Ducati of the equine world) and he could move at an awesome speed down the bypass. Plus he knew the way home (satnav??) without me having to steer him. Worked till he dropped, literally. He dropped dead in the high street, first time I saw a grown man cry, the farmer who owned him was inconsolable and the Ford 100E van was never as good as Peter!!

[Jay]

did you use the cluch on your horse and cart gramps

PMSL

Jay

[Jak]

Don't mock Age. I did drive a horse and cart in the early 50s.

and he still drives at the same speed now

Jak runs away and hides ... she's in BIG trouble now

[BluBird]

Poor horsey

[clunk]

Poor horsey

One man's dead horse is another man's dog food

[Jewell]

serious question.....

if i bought a horsey and a big cart and all the other bits and bobs...

could i take it on the road???or would i have to get insurance for the horse and an MOT certificate for the cart?????














lol

[c0xy_2003]

lol yeah horse mot r well pricey man!

[GeorgiasGrandad]

Serious answer to serious question. You would definitely need Public Liability and 3rd party insurance. No MOT necessary but cart would have to be roadworthy. Plod could nick you for unsafe vehicle, and if you drive too fast you could be done for "furious driving". But no crash-hat required, and the thrill of 'wind in your hair' speed is terrific. Go for it bro.

[BioTek]

Used to clutchless up-shifts on my GSXR400 and it'd switch smoothly, the SV on the other hand, just feels clunky and harsh so I only use the clutch.

[frostoff]

Regular cluthless upshifts, never down though.

If you fry the clutch you ain't got much choice ave you? [/img]

[Chewie]

first couple of gears going upi i use the clutch going down sometimes clutchless sometimes clutch.

[GeorgiasGrandad]

I tried it once on a 'Diamond T' tank transporter. Not a great success!

[furry]

Gearboxes which are wet multimesh are designed for clutchless up-changes...

However constantly doing this over a long time, you will most likely get it wrong even without realising, which not only can round off the gears, but knacker the selector quickly too (Why do you think so many used GSXR's jump into Neutral from 2nd???)

As I've told others, unless your on the track (In which time is critical), do you really need to use clutchless changes, clutches cheeper and far easyier to replace!!!

Changing the cluch on my TL was a nightmare, I've read though some others on here saying they also have the same problem with their bikes too hence the reason they do clutchless, I've solved mine with converting it from Hydrulic to Cable, but I'm sure there are other ways on a case by case basis for making improvements!

[furry]

oh PS if you got a GSXR1000, I would def NOT do clutchless changes, as on the selector/gear there is a plastic spacer which gets worn...

Allthough I think this is fixed under warrenty and may have even be recalled, I don't know if they replace it with the same or a modified improved part????? (As I don't own a GSXR1000 myself, shame lol)

Any light on this for others would be useful.

Knowing that Suzuki to keep cost down use same parts across the range, if you also have a K series GSXR750 or GSXR600 it's something thats worth looking into, but I'm no expert on the subject, I just know this problem exists!