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deej wrote:

tomr61 wrote:

Funky wrote:Most of the time I see BNP supporters and wonder if they should be allowed to breed, let alone vote...

Agreed but we dont go around beating people because of their beliefs or the colour of their skin which is what sets most honest people apart from extremists.

I struggle to see how a party which openly supported loyalist extremism in Northern Ireland can be legitimised but in this country of PC testicles that is what happened. So, how can a party who allegedly defend the rights of the British people go on to support a bunch of thugs who abused, terrorised and murdered British servicemen and women?

Let them say what they want without locking them up and maybe they will release their true agenda. Holocaust deniers are people who openly show disregard for the housands of Allied troops who fought in the second world war to defend our right to democracy and made sworn statements and took photos of what they saw in those death camps.

so are you saying its ok for the muslims in milton keynes to protest and cause trouble at a coming home march for our troops,are you saying its right that our soldiers arent allowed out in their own towns in their miitary clothes incase it causes hatred and upset amongst the immigrants etc ????? how the fook is that right

Nope. You are misquoting me. I despise all extremists. Just like I dont hate all Dr's cos of Mr Shipman. I've been in the forces and got the medals. I fought alongside many religions and races including the Gurkhas. Anyone who wants to deny them access to my country after they fought for it will never get my vote.

Ah sorry if I misread you

Were quite lucky in the SWest that we don't have a real big problem with immigration (yet). I work away in some very big cities where immigration is a real big problem. There's areas of bristol now where you can't spot a white man, a road a mile long in newport that doesn't have a single english shop on it. This is where the problems lie not in devon n cornwall. Unfortunately race n immigration come under one big umbrella. I agree 100% that the gurkhas should stay alongside anyone that's working,paying taxes and providing a service to us, its the illegals that shouldn't be here that I would like out.

deej wrote:Ah sorry if I misread you
I agree 100% that the gurkhas should stay alongside anyone that's working,paying taxes and providing a service to us, its the illegals that shouldn't be here that I would like out.

I agree but that sentiment is completely divorced from the colour,creed or sexual orientation of any individual which is the BNP's grounds for kicking people out.

If you read my earlier post you will see my thoughts on expulsion are the same as yours except I would also choose to kick out any lazy tw@'s that were born here and bring in individuals who wish to contribute to the stability of the UK.

tomr61 wrote:

deej wrote:Ah sorry if I misread you
I agree 100% that the gurkhas should stay alongside anyone that's working,paying taxes and providing a service to us, its the illegals that shouldn't be here that I would like out.

I agree but that sentiment is completely divorced from the colour,creed or sexual orientation of any individual which is the BNP's grounds for kicking people out.

If you read my earlier post you will see my thoughts on expulsion are the same as yours except I would also choose to kick out any lazy tw@'s that were born here and bring in individuals who wish to contribute to the stability of the UK.

cant argue with that,weve just moved into a new house mortgage we cant really afford and the fat twat with 4 kids round the corners in a 200k ocean housing assocaition house whose never worked a day in his life,he thinks its great that hes got the biggest house on the estate for free

I hate 99% of MPs.....

I think people need to earn the right, just to put in a vote. If you haven't served with Forces or Police,Fire,Ambulance etc, you're vote should be halfed.

I dont care what colour people are, whatever background, as long as people work and keep themselves afloat then fine.

Benefits system, what a joke.

Bring back Maggie Thatcher and Churchill, during hard times, people like these 2 were perfect. No BS, got things done. Doesn't work on every approach but a majority, yes.

Nick Griffin, complete mug. BNP will grow, but not with him as a leader. They are slowly losing the racist group title, they need well educated, common sense leaders now to move them up.

Need an iron fist approach on times like these. Country has gone soft.

I'm going to hate saying this...

I agree with most of what you have said.

Princess wrote:I hate 99% of MPs.....

I think people need to earn the right, just to put in a vote. If you haven't served with Forces or Police,Fire,Ambulance etc, you're vote should be halfed.

I dont care what colour people are, whatever background, as long as people work and keep themselves afloat then fine.

Benefits system, what a joke.

Bring back Maggie Thatcher and Churchill, during hard times, people like these 2 were perfect. No BS, got things done. Doesn't work on every approach but a majority, yes.

Nick Griffin, complete mug. BNP will grow, but not with him as a leader. They are slowly losing the racist group title, they need well educated, common sense leaders now to move them up.

Need an iron fist approach on times like these. Country has gone soft.

The first paragraph implies that you don't bother to vote, so why should you have any influence at all?

The second paragraph is a crock of sh*t - what makes them so special ? and once again it count's you out from voting (probationary periods don't count )

Third paragraph, fair enough

Fourth paragraph - you obviously never had to live/find work through Maggies era, and there is no way you can relate the times under which Maggie existed to those under Chruchill through and post war

Last paragraph is half-right ..... there is too much "nannying", but thats the joys of democracy

TLS-Moose wrote:The second paragraph is a crock of sh*t - what makes them so special ?

Third paragraph, fair enough

Agreed

Fourth paragraph - you obviously never had to live/find work through Maggies era, and there is no way you can relate the times under which Maggie existed to those under Chruchill through and post war

To be fair I think he's refering to the fact that with leaders such as Churchill & Maggie you knew exactly where you stood, if they said X was going to happen then that's what happened. No U turns, spin or BS, what it said on the tin......which is something that has been severely lacking with the present shower of sh*t

With regard to finding work, I left school in 85 which was about half way through Maggies era & neither I, nor anyone I knew had any trouble getting a job. Apart from about 2wks (which was by choice between jobs) I've been in full employment ever since

Last paragraph is half-right ..... there is too much "nannying", but thats the joys of democracy

hmmm, I'd say 3/4 right

I do think it a bit strange that the BNP are not aloud to be a white only group yet organisations like the Black Police Assosiation is aloud. Now if that's not raisist then what is? But because it's not a white thing it's ok. Whites keep getting critizied for raisisum but it works both ways. One set of rules for one and another set for others. If you're gonna have them they should apply to all.(sorry about spelling)

Mike Daytona600 wrote:I do think it a bit strange that the BNP are not aloud to be a white only group yet organisations like the Black Police Assosiation is aloud. Now if that's not raisist then what is? But because it's not a white thing it's ok. Whites keep getting critizied for raisisum but it works both ways. One set of rules for one and another set for others. If you're gonna have them they should apply to all.(sorry about spelling)

I dont understand why anyone, black or white, wants to be a member of a group based purely on the colour of skin. It just seems weird. I'm white and can think of lots of white people I would not want to be associated with. I grew up in Belfast and all the terrorists I came across were white. They all found it perfectly ok to murder innocent people though.

It makes me laugh though when I see people who are white racist supporting their local or national football team and cheering on a black guy. Funny how we only see what we want to when we want to. LOL

When I have managed to speak to a racist they struggle to put a grounded argument about why they are right. Louis Farrakan, Nick Griffin, Hitler are all the same to me. Hate peddling scum who trade on their own little groups insecurities.

I do agree with you that any association based on skin colour is racist (I think thats what you meant ) Let them have their little gangs. As long as they do not encourage violence against innocents then what does it matter! Like the non viloent KKK Mr Griffin mentioned.

Firstly, the BNP on question time was an absolute farce!! The audience were hand picked, the questions were all aimed at the BNP being racist, fascist etc etc. Not one question related to the parties policies!! For me, the BBC, Dimbleby, Jack Straw and everyone else involved with the making of that episode have embarrassed themselves! We go on about freedom of speech and a right to express our views yet on national television an MEP is victimised by MP's and the BBC. Joke. I do not support the BNP's policies as I think that some of them are just plain ridiculous (Expel people from the UK based on race/skin colour/religion!), but I do think Nick Griffin should have been allowed to answer the questions being put to him. He lacks charisma so probably would have made a fool of himself anyway.

Secondly, the subject of Gurkha's not being allowed to stay in the UK with their families after 22 years of service in our Armed Forces is absolutely outrageous! I, like Tom, have served in the Forces and know that these guys are honest, loyal, hard working people. For me, it doesn't matter what your ethnic background is, what colour your skin is, if you can offer this country something worthwhile, you are working to earn a living, not sponging off the state and paying your taxes then I have no problems with you being here.

However, if you are here to sponge, force religion down our throats, moan that the cross offends you and should be taken down from public places, blow yourselves up and preach hatred, claim benefits, offer nothing to society and radicalise younger members of this country then pack your bags and do one, your not welcome!!

As for the benefits system being a joke, I totally agree. I have a friend who left the forces and was out of work for a few months whilst he got himself sorted. He has a wife an 2 young kids and due to his wife being off work due to a vehicle accident, he had to go on benefits. He applied for the Police Force and stayed on benefits until he passed all the tests and eventually got offered a place. He joined up last year and upon doing so -TOOK A PAY CUT!! Get your head around that!! He was being paid more on benefits than he now gets as a police officer..........and the govt wonders why they can't get the lazy, idol gits of this country to get up and get a job!!

Who did you serve with St.George?

Boy Scouts mate

St.George wrote:Boy Scouts mate

You were in the Trifles?

Princess wrote:

St.George wrote:Boy Scouts mate

You were in the Trifles?

No - The same Corps that you could so nearly have been a part of

So near yet so far.....