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Hi All

I happened to come across this video on YouTube
https://youtu.be/x5bMHOS25Mk

Basically all about your leathers and the armour protection that is in your biking gear. As much as most of the video is slow going and to be honest quite boring, the moment I finished watching it was grabbing all my biking gear and checking stitching and CE ratings to see if what I had was to the current standard or not.

Might be of interest.

More importantly, how safe is your riding?

I saw the same video. Gave me the willies at first but reality is if you got good brand leather gear (my two peice is probably older than latest CE) it should still stop you from becoming a meat crayon. No gear will save us from high speed impacts though, safe road riding for the win.

ptolemyx wrote: ↑Jun 11th, '21, 06:01 More importantly, how safe is your riding?

I am a great believer that awareness and ability are 100 times more important that speed just because your fast does not mean that your unsafe and just because your slow does not mean your safe.

Not wanting to jinx myself but after 11 years of riding on road and track days have only had one accident / fallen off once whilst on track and at a training school learning something new. Was a low side at 30mph and walked away with nothing but a bruised ego and some minor bike repairs.

Long may my history continue...... I hope

Wasn't a dig at you Rob but a general question that we all should consider how safe our riding is and not rely on the latest super tech kit to keep us alive when someone makes a mistake. Being humans we all make mistakes and whilst decent kit is a good thing I think it may be better to try and make fewer mistakes ourselves and account better for other peoples mistakes. Beware "risk compensation", the old adage that we'd all be better car drivers if there was a sharp spike sticking out of the steering wheel pointing at us instead of gazillions of airbags holds true.

Very very true

Ok all yet another shock to the system today.

If any of you have seen this thread viewtopic.php?f=4&t=101009
You will have seen that my textile jacket ripped by my mobile being in my pocket and pushing on the material. Having now got this repaired made me seriously question what safety the jacket was offering. After some checks on the jacket I can see it has a grade A rating which I assumed to be really good.... as you will see below in reality I would be just as safe waring a denim jacket with some armour in the shoulders and elbows.

A lot of textile clothing is A rated, but know that plain jeans could often have the abrasion resistance to pass this, so if you have two garments that you’re trying to choose between, I’d go for the higher-rated one.

EN 17092 is divided into four classifications that as a motorcyclist you need to know about: B, A, AA and AAA.

B: This is deemed suitable for urban riding but without impact protectors
A: Also for urban riding but including impact protectors
AA: More suited to touring gear
AAA: The highest level of protection specified by the standard

Following this thread and also my shock at finding out that my textile jacket will only support abrasion resistance of speed below 30mph and that the armour is allowed to let a load of force through to my bones when used, it was clear I needed to buy a new jacket and keep the textile one for rain only adventures.

With my new found knowledge on the CE accreditations and what they mean and what you should be looking for what else could I do but make a video about it. If your thinking that you stuff is CE certified and therefor your safe I strongly advise you give this a watch as there are multiple CE certifications and if you don't understand what your wearing you might just find (like I did) that actually you have little to no protection at all in your favorite biking jacket.

Hope you find this useful guys and girls
https://youtu.be/1eMEtw1KXRc

Here's an interesting thing ...... https://youtu.be/OTYffWqeAJI

TLS-Moose wrote: ↑Jun 28th, '21, 20:09 Here's an interesting thing ...... https://youtu.be/OTYffWqeAJI

OMG Moose what a find that it!!!!!
What a great blend of total protection and light weight normal clothing
Will seriously be looking at this company in the future. Lets hope they do the leggings to match the shirt in the future.

Hype or what I'll be sticking to my leathers.

What a CLAIMED great blend of total protection (I don't think so) and light weight normal clothing...

If the protection is as claimed (and it looks to be - you don't get better than AAA CE rating, if verfied), and if it's affordable for us mere mortals, then as an undergarment it's something I'd buy.

Found this vid from the fab guy at fort nine a lot better video then I could ever do but explains a lot well worth a watch.

https://youtu.be/lwwlvi1hf10

menzies3032 wrote: ↑Jun 11th, '21, 18:01

ptolemyx wrote: ↑Jun 11th, '21, 06:01 More importantly, how safe is your riding?

I am a great believer that awareness and ability are 100 times more important that speed just because your fast does not mean that your unsafe and just because your slow does not mean your safe.

Not wanting to jinx myself but after 11 years of riding on road and track days have only had one accident / fallen off once whilst on track and at a training school learning something new. Was a low side at 30mph and walked away with nothing but a bruised ego and some minor bike repairs.

Long may my history continue...... I hope

Plus your Spanish Kitty litter trip after picking a fight with an R1 M.

Interesting what Fortnine says in his video regarding CE rating, in that in many instances it only refers to one part of a garment not the whole thing. If the cuff zip is CE3 rated and the rest is shit you can plaster the garment with CE3 labels that those of us without a masters degree in the subject are likely to mistakenly assume refers to the whole garment.
That of course is purely academic if you are the perfect rider who will never have a serious off.