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Advice on a sports il4 600

Posted: Nov 12th, '07, 20:50
by Ricky_t
Hi, next year my 2 year restricted license expires and my insurance will be up for renewal and after 2 years no claims i can afford the insurance(about £300) on any 600 supersport.

I enjoy riding the sv and even though it is restricted i rode it for 2 weeks on private land unrestricted and found the v-twin power delivery not that satisfing and the noise is also good but not what i was after.

I want recommendations on a bike that is:

-up to £3000.
-Sound like an f1 car (yes i am childish) and revs quite high
-not neccesaily fastest in class but most fun to ride
-I only ride for fun so practicality/comfort for long distances are not required.

Because of my license i could not physically test ride a bike so i went on advice but after driving honda cars with the high revving vtec power band i want the same on my next motorbike.

So this would probably be an argument on what is more fun to ride? The cbr600rr, gsxr600, zx6r or r6.[/b]

Posted: Nov 12th, '07, 21:06
by Tom
The new R6 revs for england, dunno about the old ones?

And what makes you think you can get insurance for £300? Not sounding funny, but I live in the postcode with the least risk attached to it, and I have 4 years NCB and my insurance was £297 TPTF with no breakdown cover. I personally wouldnt get an idea of insurance costs using the internet, its not ALWAYS accurate!

Posted: Nov 12th, '07, 21:13
by Ricky_t
Tom wrote:The new R6 revs for england, dunno about the old ones?

And what makes you think you can get insurance for £300? Not sounding funny, but I live in the postcode with the least risk attached to it, and I have 4 years NCB and my insurance was £297 TPTF with no breakdown cover. I personally wouldnt get an idea of insurance costs using the internet, its not ALWAYS accurate!
Next year I will be 21, 2 Years no claims, locked garage, did a few quotes TPFT and that is what quotes i got. Around £300 mark. I am currently paying £277 TPFT for the Sv650 with Benetts. The bike is in a locked garage and chained down but the bike is not worth a lot (realtively.) TBH as long as the insurance is less than £400 I am happy and that is easily achieved! The quotes online should be accurate as you can buy your policy online - that is what i did earlier this year!

Posted: Nov 12th, '07, 21:23
by Tom
Fair enough, and I know they should be, but a few mates have had a few shocks, I have personally never had any real problems with online quotes

Posted: Nov 12th, '07, 22:10
by DynaMight
£3000 is an in between area. 600's really got interesting in 2003/2004+ but generally (well atm anyway) those bikes are over £3000. This may change next year.

In 03/04 the bike with the most tarty bits was the 636, it was the only 600 to have USD's and Radial brakes, plus for some reason they're the cheapest!! Doesn't mean the other 600's were crap but all others had standard forks and normal brakes.

For me, I'd want either a 03/04 636, 04+ GSXR600, 05 R6 or a 03+ CBR600RR. Thats based purely on the years I like the look off (thats in the cheaper 600 price range)

In honesty, it doesnt make a huge difference, they're all very fast, all handle very well, all scream. It isnt like it's gonna make us any faster.

Posted: Nov 13th, '07, 08:34
by Mervin
Nice to be young , not knowing anything about these bikes myself i cannot comment, but now getting older i prefer a slower plodding engine that will go everywhere in top gear, these dentist drill speed engines make me cringe, surely the slower it revs the less fuel it uses and the longer it lasts, anyway my old Rd,s rev too 8500 redline which was consider screaming in the late seventies by brit bike owners that had bikes that were flat out at 5000 rpm, but i loved the screaming strokers and still do so understand where yo are coming from, Why rush into choosing a bike before you can ride it? ride your SV until you can ride the next bike, then when you have your licence start looking and if they will let you testing, would a bike shop will not at least take you out for a pillion ride?
not sure if they still do that, but Les smale at Torrington was always more than willing to do that in the seventies, see if you can scrounge pillion rides from other bikers to see what floats your boat, most of all enjoy your next bike, ride carefully, take care
merv

Posted: Nov 13th, '07, 13:00
by VTR
Interesting that you find the SV power delivery not that satisfying, I had the use of one a few years back (one of the older, rounder shape) & found it to be quite a fun, sporty bike. Ok, it needed a bit of revs to make it move, but it was great fun.
Thinking back to when I had my CBR6 at the age of 26 it cost me over £500 tpft (some 13yrs ago :( :oops: ). Ok, it was a new bike which would have an effect on the premium, but insurance costs haven't reduced in that time (although thankfully mine have :D ). At the age of 21 I'd be surprised if you could get insurance as low as you're saying, not saying that you can't, but I'd be surprised.
As to the bike? Well, as you're only going to be playing on it (so to speak) then as Dynamight has pretty much said they're all pretty close these days, so I guess it would come down to brand loyalty or which one you like the look of.
Personally I'm a bit of a Honda man so the CBR does it for me, however the ZX6 would be a close 2nd......in blue or black of course. 8)

Posted: Nov 13th, '07, 13:35
by jason
for that list on a budget of £3000 pound for the age of bikes your looking at I would get the one I could find that was the cleanest, that had suspension in the best shape and least miles, and the best service history and the most sorted brakes.

their differences from new between models will be irrelevant compared to the difference between how well kept they are.

My preference would be a GSXR as they are generally fun and the easiest bikes to ride fast on, But Id still take a well looked after CBR over a rough around the edges GSXR (even though I think honda build seriously boring road bikes). Get the best looked after one you can, in reality all the bikes in that list are nice bikes to own.

Posted: Nov 13th, '07, 16:53
by billinom8s
you say u want a bike that revs high like your old car did.

didnt you end up crashing and writing off that car in a street race????

do you really think that a 'high revving' bike is a good idea already ???

Posted: Nov 13th, '07, 17:25
by Funky
300 insurance, don't make me laugh!

Just test ride them and see which one suits you best. Head off to somewhere like bridge where they will have at least one of each in stock.

Don't spend 3000 on someone reccomendation and close your mind to others, buying a bike is like making love to a beautiful woman...it takes time.

Posted: Nov 13th, '07, 17:28
by billinom8s
and u gotta take alot of pictures of u riding her to prove shes yours :wink:

Posted: Nov 13th, '07, 17:30
by Funky
If you have two bikes then you definately have to take pictures, or a video or no one will ever believe you.

Posted: Nov 13th, '07, 17:31
by billinom8s
always make sure they are clean tho

Posted: Nov 13th, '07, 17:32
by Funky
thats true, and wear protection, you never know what you'll get from a well used dirty bike

Posted: Nov 13th, '07, 17:37
by billinom8s
they may be more 'run in' but are no substitute for a nice tight screamer