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Sump funked?

Posted: Apr 10th, '09, 17:57
by Milky
i decided i would change my oil today.. and also over-tighten my sump plug and leave my bike dripping oil :evil: I'm not sure whether i've shredded the thread on the sump.. or both.. but i'm ordering a new plug and washer.. i'll try the new washer without touching the sump first.. is there any non-permenant thread locking paste or anything i can use that will improve the seal and alos withstand the heat etc?

If i have dammaged the thread in the sump, would a helicoil insert do the job or would it just be easier to buy a whole new sump for it? Thanks, Tom.

Re: Sump funked

Posted: Apr 10th, '09, 18:59
by TLS-Moose
A new sump is an easy option if you can find one at a sensible price.

Common repair is a threadsert or helicoil. Either CMS in Pinhoe or Exeter Motor Services in the City Industrial Estate, Haven Banks will be able to sort you out. Don't take a chance and bodge it - the last thing you want is for it to give way and dump it's oil over the back tyre whilst out riding - potential crash and blown engine at the same time :wink:

Re: Sump funked

Posted: Apr 10th, '09, 19:56
by jam
See what size thread the sump bolt is, then you can re tap the sump and use a larger bolt in it, for example if it's an M16 now then you should be able to re tap it to M18 and use a larger bolt in there, cheaper than having a Helicoil installed.
Personally I'm no fan of Helicoils, I always use Timeserts rather than Helicoil, I've had helicoils fail in the past, but I've only known a Timesert fail once and that was a very extreme example so doesn't really count.

Re: Sump funked

Posted: Apr 10th, '09, 20:06
by Milky
what about thread selant/locking stuff?

Re: Sump funked

Posted: Apr 10th, '09, 20:48
by Cheese Monkey
Drill and tap, sorted the bandit right

Re: Sump funked

Posted: Apr 10th, '09, 20:52
by Milky
Cheese Monkey wrote:Drill and tap, sorted the bandit right
yeh i think that's what'l probly happen..

Re: Sump funked

Posted: Apr 10th, '09, 22:08
by Funky
In future..

haynes Manual
torque settings
Torque wrench

No problem

Re: Sump funked

Posted: Apr 10th, '09, 22:28
by Milky
Funky wrote:In future..

haynes Manual - check
torque settings - check
Torque wrench - nope

No problem
:cry:

Re: Sump funked?

Posted: Apr 10th, '09, 22:31
by Banditmax
To be fair tom the threads might have been screwed already. Unless you were using a 5ft bar to tighten it.

Re: Sump funked?

Posted: Apr 10th, '09, 22:35
by arkell
download the workshop manual off zxrworld.co.uk, print it off and keep a copy in the garage/shed. That'w what I've done and havnt fu*ked anything up 'yet'! :mrgreen:

Re: Sump funked?

Posted: Apr 11th, '09, 06:56
by Maver-Nick
You're not having much luck with this bike are ya mate... :roll: :(

Re: Sump funked?

Posted: Apr 11th, '09, 07:21
by webster
Maver-Nick wrote:You're not having much luck with this bike are ya mate... :roll: :(
that's all part of the fun, adds to the satisfaction when it does work

Re: Sump funked?

Posted: Apr 11th, '09, 07:28
by Blimey
I've done the same matey it comes with experience. Learn by your mistakes and all.

I ended up buying a second hand sump for £20 i think it was but you will also need a new gasket and then for even more practice you got all those little sump bolts to tighten to the correct torque :lol:

Good luck mate with what ever you consider doing but don't bodge it like Mossey suggested its not worth it

Re: Sump funked?

Posted: Apr 11th, '09, 09:38
by Milky
Banditmax wrote:To be fair tom the threads might have been screwed already. Unless you were using a 5ft bar to tighten it.
just used a 17mm halfords own ring spanner. i guess its just my almighty strength that's done it.. 8)

Re: Sump funked?

Posted: Apr 11th, '09, 09:43
by Banditmax
I guess that they were funked before you got to it anyway then, unless you put the bolt in cross threaded.