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Nurburgring......have you done it.

Posted: Jan 18th, '10, 22:53
by Redlight
I fancy a bash at Nurburgring, if you have done it........what is it like and was it worth the trip.

Check out this Mazda chasing a bike......cool rider.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b66AxwyUKGU

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Posted: Jan 19th, '10, 00:54
by layne
Brilliant, Yes.







I can bore you with it as much as you like :roll:

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Posted: Jan 19th, '10, 10:21
by Redlight
layne wrote:Brilliant, Yes.
I can bore you with it as much as you like :roll:

Fancy another go....I know Chris is interested.

Re: Nurburgring......have you done it.

Posted: Jan 19th, '10, 13:42
by Princess
Yes and Yes.

Don't go on if its abit wet...

In a car its only a 12 hour trip from say Southampton give or a take an hour or 2 on stops.

I went Via Holland to visit family then Flew down the Autobahn for a couple hours then Bingo, the Ring and the surrounding roads are mentally fast.

130mph corners.

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Posted: Jan 19th, '10, 13:45
by Varcon
Id love to go...probably next year though when i can afford it!

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Posted: Jan 19th, '10, 19:55
by Scotty
I think it's fair to say that the Mazda driver knew his way around, he wasn't taking any prisoners through the traffic... the bike riders were far more polite, but then again, if they got it wrong they stood a much greater chance of going home in a box... :shock:
Had to laugh at the black estate car grass-tracking just before 8 mins :lol: :lol:

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Posted: Jan 19th, '10, 20:11
by Redlight
Scotty wrote:I think it's fair to say that the Mazda driver knew his way around, he wasn't taking any prisoners through the traffic... the bike riders were far more polite, but then again, if they got it wrong they stood a much greater chance of going home in a box... :shock:
Had to laugh at the black estate car grass-tracking just before 8 mins :lol: :lol:
Mazda were always going to pick someone who knew his way around and I'd agree the bike riders were much more cautious....unlike the black estate, an off track detour normally ends in tears.

Its 21 euros a lap now.......how many could you expect to do in a day???

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Posted: Jan 19th, '10, 20:34
by payner
best time to ride the track is before midday between 8 and 10 was clear,just a few cars .all the fast bikers are out then perfect learning curve,plenty of quick old boy germans to tag on to.oh may sound like a crazy tip but glance at the tree tops to tel you track direction,lots of fast blind brows cost it up i would for sure go again..

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Posted: Jan 19th, '10, 22:29
by meganall
yes 3 of us done it at the end of our europe trip and it was fantastic experience, it was the first time we had ever been on a track and we really enjoyed ourselves, done it on road pressure in our tires as we didn't know any difference :oops:
done a 9:40 on the second lap and pleased with that, a couple of us are doing a trip in september to munich to do ocktoberfest (beer festival) and planning on doing the ring on our way home i will put a proper thing up in the next couple of days when i've got more details it might interest some of you guys :lol:
nothing prepares you for the roughness of that carrousel though :D

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Posted: Jan 20th, '10, 20:18
by julian
never done but its on my to do list.........looked a lot safer in the car though :shock: :D

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Posted: Jan 20th, '10, 21:12
by Chris K5
definitely interested.
Good place to learn the track is Gran Tourismo

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Posted: Jan 22nd, '10, 01:27
by jason
done it a couple times.

I can do it around 8 mins and a few seconds btoG before I took the stopwatch off my triple clamps for fear of necking myself. get under 8.30 and you generally stop getting overtaken by any cars. last time I was there the only things that over took me once I got past the warm up was a few bikes, you have to put your neck on the line a bit though.... and car wise we are not just talking crappy suburas and saloon BMW's- thats well driven GTRs, GT3's, caterhams and ariel atoms you'll maybe be up against on a busy day and they take a fair bit of effort to get past.

you really need a decent bike and an ability to ignore armco and blind crests.

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Posted: Jan 22nd, '10, 16:49
by ZXR400Lee
Not for me on a motorbike... I'd be too worried about having an accident in a foreign country, unable to speak German, void insurance at the ring too.. Looks a bit chaotic in places.. with the mix of faster and slower riders/drivers.. I just dont have the riding ability to ride quickly around that circuit on a ZZR1100.

I'd love to do it in a car though!!!! :D

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Posted: Jan 22nd, '10, 17:38
by Scotty
Does your bike (or car) have to be road-legal, or would a track bike be ok?

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Posted: Jan 22nd, '10, 20:50
by layne
Fully road legal and insurance as it’s a “public highway”, although it’s a closed road. They have also brought in rules about accessories meeting TUV standards, like harnesses and roll cages.

Some insurance excludes the Ring by name. Others are a bit more vague but still effectively exclude it.

Police will attend serious accidents and make arrests and people who leave the scene of an incident. Even if an accident happens latter from debris left on the track.

They peruse anyone who damages barriers and the record is apparently €15,000. If you breakdown, recovery is by ADAC only. I got charged €185 when my chain broke.

Don’t do it in a hire car or you’ll get a worldwide ban by the hirer and a penalty charge.

This is Darren starting off behind me (shagged N-reg ZX9R) on his R6
http://darski.co.uk/content/video/my-fa ... g-lap.ashx

More info: (please note it is not open to the public all the time – look for TF or Touristfahrten (public track day)

Start here at Ben’s old site as it is considered the centre for all beginners
http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/

This is also a nice write-up of the experience
http://www.roadracers.co.uk/trip-ring0.htm

But the main forum for all the English speaking community (Ringers) is now North Loop. You do need to register but this site is a must for what is going on or questions
http://s8.invisionfree.com/Northloop/

Official web site
http://www.nuerburgring.de/en.html

Semi-official site (English tabs are on the right)
http://www.nurburgring.de/?rubrik=nordschleife&lang=eng

This is Dale Lomas’s sites (ex-Performance Bikes) the forum has died off as everyone moved to North Loop but he is making an effort this year to keep it up to date. He is an instructor there now for RSR. Nice videos and has link to the Ringcam above the toll gates so you can watch whats happening – gets very addictive and friends can call you and wave... just to piss you off
http://bridgetogantry.com/
http://www.bridgetogantry.com/2/

History lesson – the ring used to be 5 miles longer before they cut off the southern Loop
http://sudschleife.8200rpm.com/

And finally we usually stay here but I don’t know if Bren (the Red Barron in Performance Bikes -7:28 laps on an MV) is open this year after family problems. Can you spot me on the home page?
http://www.slidersguesthouse.com/

Zat tiz oll