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Front end chatter
Posted: Apr 28th, '18, 21:53
by Jimbo04zx10r
Looking for a little bit of advice.
While at Cadwell last Monday I had a lot of front end chatter at one particular part of the circuit. When braking into the chicane I had a lot of chatter, I didn't have any chatter while heavy braking on any other part of the circuit. I didn't feel any knocking or clonks from the front end, however when chatting someone said check your head stock bearings, I did this and was able to tighten the nuts by about 3/4 of a turn (being careful not to over tighten). Next time out better at that point of the track but a few laps in chatter back.
Anyone got any ideas
I've checked
front discs not looking warped and wear is even on both
brand new bearing in front wheel
brake pads all good
ran brand new slicks and tyre wear is very good on front and rear
Cheers Jimbo
Re: Front end chatter
Posted: Apr 29th, '18, 05:25
by billinom8s
Were the forks under full compression? You could of been bottoming out.
Chatter seems to be a term thrown around when people get vibration, wobble, bottoming out, warping of disks, too high tyre pressure - the list can go on and on.
Re: Front end chatter
Posted: Apr 29th, '18, 06:54
by Jimbo04zx10r
I was getting vibration through the handle bars only under braking and tipping in on that part of the track. Forks haven't bottomed out as i have about 20-25mm from the cable tie indicator. if it was a warped disc I would of thought it would happen when braking at all parts of the circuit.
Re: Front end chatter
Posted: Apr 29th, '18, 07:43
by Ruffian
Check your front wheel bearings and disc bobbins are free,
If it's only happening in one place round cadwell i would be thinking it's something else.
Also if you still have 20-25mm from the bottom it seems your suspension set up maybe off for your riding style.
Have you had it set up at all?
Re: Front end chatter
Posted: Apr 29th, '18, 08:43
by Jimbo04zx10r
Front wheel bearings are brand new had those put in when I had my slicks fitted.
Running 34 psi in front hot off the warmers
Re: Front end chatter
Posted: Apr 29th, '18, 09:17
by Ruffian
What slick are you running??
Plus 34 shouldn't give you any issues at that pace.
I still would be looking elsewhere for your issue.
Re: Front end chatter
Posted: Apr 29th, '18, 10:39
by Ducaki
Its been apart recently! Has the front been put back together properly, as in torque, sequence , balance.
Re: Front end chatter
Posted: Apr 29th, '18, 10:52
by billinom8s
25 to 30mm up from the base of the stanchion is where your bump stop will be inside the forks (unless you've had it removed) this is to stop you from bottoming out the forks and damaging them. You could be hitting against that.
Re: Front end chatter
Posted: Apr 29th, '18, 20:45
by Jimbo04zx10r
Running with Metzeler CompK slicks
Front end not been apart for a while, I'll have to pop over and get you to service forks as they probably could do with an oil change.
Re: Front end chatter
Posted: Apr 29th, '18, 21:16
by billinom8s
Not a problem mister.
Re: Front end chatter
Posted: May 4th, '18, 00:02
by Jimbo04zx10r
I'm going to pull the front forks next week so will pop them over to you asap as I'm off to Pembrey at then end of the month, have you any luck looking into springs and valves etc?
Re: Front end chatter
Posted: May 4th, '18, 06:00
by billinom8s
You won't need valves. Springs, decent oil and the correct gap will see you right.
Re: Front end chatter
Posted: Oct 18th, '18, 11:49
by Tomcat
When I've had chatter in the past it's been because the oil I was using was too heavy. What happens is the forks are overdamped and can't respond to the ripples in the road. People often turn the damping right up in the belief it'll help handling, up to a point this is true but turn it up too far and it introduces its own problems. Think about paying for an expert setup. Can also happen with worn tyres BTW.
Re: Front end chatter
Posted: Oct 19th, '18, 18:09
by ptolemyx
When I've had chatter it's been down to hearing the wife
