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XR1000 / Tiger 800
Posted: Aug 19th, '19, 21:10
by Red5
OK, it might be happening, Red5 might almost nearly be nearly thinking he could nearly almost be looking at getting a grown up bike
Have done an amount of Google research, reviews etc.
Not everybody's cups of tea and they're 2 completely different bikes but am asking for people's experiences please of either the Triumph tiger 800 and the BMW XR 1000.
Please can we avoid the "it's crap" or "it's bloody great" one liners. Any constructive advice and experiences of either bike greatly received.
Thanks.
Re: XR1000 / Tiger 800
Posted: Aug 19th, '19, 21:13
by Ruffian
Well I'm sure goat pants will comment as he had a tiger,
But Steve had a xr for a short amount of time and said it was nuts, BMW rr engine and frame just with slightly different geometry. Why have you limited it too those two bikes??
Re: XR1000 / Tiger 800
Posted: Aug 19th, '19, 23:26
by menzies3032
I can’t comment on the bikes themselves Nick but what I would say is for the type of riding your now doing which could be the normal Sunday hack but I am seeing you do more of the long distance travel and touring this would be so much more comfortable and got to be a nicer experience then the 675 Daytona
Re: XR1000 / Tiger 800
Posted: Aug 19th, '19, 23:49
by TLS-Moose
Why the baby triumph, but big bimmer? Why not a tiger 1200? Or the GS800?
Or a Multistrada? Or Turismo Veloce?
Re: XR1000 / Tiger 800
Posted: Aug 20th, '19, 10:32
by Red5
Test riding later this week but just like those 2. Rode a Multi and not overly keen on the twin.
Have found a decent XR from Ocean, we'll see...
Might test ride and decide neither
Re: XR1000 / Tiger 800
Posted: Aug 20th, '19, 10:59
by Jug
I think the big V-twins are very marmite.
If you're more use to revy bikes then the triples or IL4's will likely suit you better.
Only bad I have heard said about the XR is that at motorway speeds it can be viby through the pegs & maybe the bars, but that can be very subjective.
I have suffered from tingling fingers the most from my Vstrom 650, which is one the smoothest V-twins out there. My SD990 has done it to me occasionally but the 1190 Adventure hasn't so far.
Tiger 800 - my mate had one and complained about the gearing, he said it was geared too high, meaning it rev'd high when cruising and that got annoying. I suggested changing the front sprocket but he said that can cause gearbox issues. No idea if this BS but something to maybe look into.
Re: XR1000 / Tiger 800
Posted: Aug 20th, '19, 11:05
by Jug
Oh, and look into what people on the forums are doing about screen mods.
I can almost guarantee that the standard screen will not work well. It'll either buffet your head around and/or just be very noisy with the wind blast.
It took a while to get both my Vstrom and now my 1190 to work well as I have a very low tolerance for wind noise.
When I first got the 1190 it had a low "sport" screen on and it felt like someone was literally pushing my head from side to side at about once a second when doing 80. The standard height screen was better but at higher speeds caused so much helmet vibration that it actually impairs your vision.
See if you can test for that on your test rides too.
Re: XR1000 / Tiger 800
Posted: Aug 20th, '19, 12:12
by Red5
Ruffian wrote: ↑Aug 19th, '19, 21:13
Well I'm sure goat pants will comment as he had a tiger,
But Steve had a xr for a short amount of time and said it was nuts, BMW rr engine and frame just with slightly different geometry. Why have you limited it too those two bikes??
Kind of liked the adventure bikes but feel the GS's are too common, probably be ause they're great machines but all a bit clichéd. Not so keen on the others out there. But then I saw the XR and having ridden a naked r, I thought it might be a goer. I'm hardly going to use any bike to its full potential but do feel the tiger will be a bit too like a land rover, while not full spec range rover, it'll still be all clean and shiny and never see the mud
Re: XR1000 / Tiger 800
Posted: Aug 20th, '19, 12:50
by Robbo87
Just get a ZZR 1400. Than you can keep up with the rest of us
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Joking aside, out of all the beemers, it's the new BMW R1250R or R1250RS that I fancy
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Re: XR1000 / Tiger 800
Posted: Aug 20th, '19, 13:57
by Ming
I'd steer clear of a Tiger 800, having seen you ride. I had the roadie version for 3 years before the 1190 and the engine's smooth but not that grunty, the brakes aren't very sharp even with SBS pads and it runs out of ground clearance quickly. I wore both hero blobs down to the point the footrest was next and then the sidestand mount dug in on a French roundabout and nearly put me in a hedge. You certainly wouldn't take it on a trackday. Not that fuel efficient and expensive servicing. 6k small service is okay but needs a valve check every 12k and that's over £500 at a dealer.
The 1050 Tiger Sport (from 2015) is slightly better but I found it vibey.
I may be biased, but if you want one bike that does everything from trackdays to touring and is pretty cheap to run, the KTM 1190 adventure is what I'd go for.
They start at about 6k. That's closer in performance to the XR but without the vibes and cheaper.
Re: XR1000 / Tiger 800
Posted: Aug 20th, '19, 14:42
by Red5
Ming wrote: ↑Aug 20th, '19, 13:57
I'd steer clear of a Tiger 800, having seen you ride. I had the roadie version for 3 years before the 1190 and the engine's smooth but not that grunty, the brakes aren't very sharp even with SBS pads and it runs out of ground clearance quickly. I wore both hero blobs down to the point the footrest was next and then the sidestand mount dug in on a French roundabout and nearly put me in a hedge. You certainly wouldn't take it on a trackday. Not that fuel efficient and expensive servicing. 6k small service is okay but needs a valve check every 12k and that's over £500 at a dealer.
The 1050 Tiger Sport (from 2015) is slightly better but I found it vibey.
I may be biased, but if you want one bike that does everything from trackdays to touring and is pretty cheap to run, the KTM 1190 adventure is what I'd go for.
They start at about 6k. That's closer in performance to the XR but without the vibes and cheaper.
Twin though, right? Oddly, the KTM just doesn't grab me. I tried a 990 the other week and admittedly for shits n giggles it's on the money but just unsure of the twin...
Re: XR1000 / Tiger 800
Posted: Aug 20th, '19, 14:44
by Ming
Ahh, okay - I see you're still not convinced by the V twin configuration. I had a 950 and have ridden the 990 and can tell you the 1190 and 1290 are completely different beasts.
Re: XR1000 / Tiger 800
Posted: Aug 20th, '19, 15:44
by jer r1
Quite agree , the 1290 is certainly a beast.
Re: XR1000 / Tiger 800
Posted: Aug 20th, '19, 16:40
by Ruffian
1290 gt,
Mt10 tracer,
Mt09 tracer,
BMW s1000 xr
Kawasaki zx1000sx,
Triumph speed triple (just with a bigger screen)
Your spoilt for choice nick,
I know fozz was speaking highly of his xr,
The mt10 is fun regardless,
The speed triple is absolutely brilliant swiss army knife.
It all depends on what your thinking you want.
Even the smaller bikes (650 ninja, Honda 750)
Are more than capable.
Re: XR1000 / Tiger 800
Posted: Aug 20th, '19, 21:12
by Fozz
As Andy says i think you will tire of a Tiger 800 very quickly.I also owned one suspension needs sorting as pegs touch down to easily.It also runs out of puff,fun riding on the stop though
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