Sliding

Ricky_t · Post by **Ricky_t** » Dec 23rd, '07, 19:52

Hi all,

I know the weather hasn't been so good lately but I unfortunately managed to get my back end sliding when turning a corner at around 30mph in Totnes the other day. Fortunately, I recovered from the slide with no accident!

If your bike goes tail happy what are you supposed to do exactly?

1) Hold the throttle and counter steer
2) Open the throttle slightly and counter steer.

I was leaning over slightly and when I started to slide I increased the throttle slightly and counter steered. It was a survival reaction as I know that you never brake on a corner!

Thanks
Amrik

Webber · Post by **Webber** » Dec 23rd, '07, 20:23

go for number 2 if your feelin lucky, but you'll find by just shutting off it will sort its self out. dont touch the brakes, else its good bye!

AndyS4 · Post by **AndyS4** » Dec 23rd, '07, 22:00

nooooooooooooooooooooooooo don't touch the throttle hold it still. especially don't shut off as you will high side.

Funky · Post by **Funky** » Dec 23rd, '07, 22:05

I'd soil myself, regroup then formulate another plan.

I did have this happen to me on my previous tyres, just tended to shut the throttle and stick my legs close to the floor to just in case, not had it at thirty though, always been able to feel it. If you cranked over, right yourself up and shut off the throttle.

svr-ash · Post by **svr-ash** » Dec 23rd, '07, 22:40

"Twist of the wrist" says maintain the throttle and steer into the slide, although this never happens and panic reactions shut the throttle, the rear finds grip and high sides you, do it on a v-twin and it'll spit you straight off

Riding the country roads i do it happens quite alot, yes it's quite scarey but i just keep it going and take the next corner slower ;)

Funky · Post by **Funky** » Dec 23rd, '07, 23:00

svr-ash wrote:"Twist of the wrist"

Don't try and Hide it rash, we all know thats actually a w@nk mag.

It is all about cutting the fine line between over powering the rear and it sliding out from under you and it suddenly finding grip. I think alot of people will be amazed how much the tyre grips as you pull out of a corner on the throttle as the power pushes the rear into the tarmac.

R6 STU · Post by **R6 STU** » Dec 23rd, '07, 23:08

Close your eyes and hope for the best.
instinct will always sort you out (or screw you)

thelastsuperpower · Post by **thelastsuperpower** » Dec 24th, '07, 10:39

Ive had this happen twice already last week....i remembered lots of advice about staying loose,not shutting off the throttle and not panicking.

However on both occasions i simply clenched my buttocks and screamed like a girl.

Seemed to work for me

jason · Post by **jason** » Dec 24th, '07, 11:01

AndyS4 wrote:nooooooooooooooooooooooooo don't touch the throttle hold it still. especially don't shut off as you will high side.

you'll have to be going at a decent rate to properly highside yourself.

I think there is a big difference between racing theory you read and simply having a low speed rear wheel slide because the roads are cold wet and greasy.

I like what r6stu wrote, kind of applies whatever you read or believe:

"instinct will always sort you out (or screw you)"

r1dave · Post by **r1dave** » Dec 24th, '07, 11:34

thelastsuperpower wrote:Ive had this happen twice already last week....i remembered lots of advice about staying loose,not shutting off the throttle and not panicking.

However on both occasions i simply clenched my buttocks and screamed like a girl.

Seemed to work for me

julian · Post by **julian** » Dec 24th, '07, 15:35

This is easy……….if the back end steps out, give it a handful of throttle, the back end should now be well and truly ‘lit up’ and you should have the beginnings of a nice power slide.

Onlookers may become worried you may be about to have an accident,

so , casually remove your left hand from the bars, and give the thumbs up sign to reassure them.

I hope this is of some help, let us know how you get on!!!

M. Melandrie

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Dec 24th, '07, 16:52

Rub the rear brake, and keep the power on gently.

However it usually happens so quick that just accelerating out of it gently works for me.

deej · Post by **deej** » Dec 24th, '07, 17:50

i asked this question at the ron haslam race school:

how do you react when faced with a highside ??

the instructors advice was.

if you have to time think your a better rider than me !!

he had a fair point as when the blade span up exiting the esses i kept the throttle open and it sorted itself out. used the same theory yesterday and as scary as it was spinnning left to right it was quite good fun.

just go with it and let the bike sort itself out

Mike Daytona600 · Post by **Mike Daytona600** » Dec 24th, '07, 18:09

R6 STU wrote:Close your eyes and hope for the best.
instinct will always sort you out (or screw you)

Nuff said. If time instinct normally tells me to let off the throttle and leave the brakes well alone. Normally it's all over and done with before I realise (like deej said) in which case instinct tells me to put a f' off gurt grin on my face and to rub my tank with my had to say thanks to my bike for staying on its rubber

Webber · Post by **Webber** » Dec 25th, '07, 15:45

i thought it was sliding coming into the corner, thats why i said shut off. if in doubt flat out