Speed Camera question ...

[yellowrsvr]

Send him over to http://www.pepipoo.com

I'd fight it all the way, regardless of the circumstances if it we're me.

Bit daft riding the bike before you'd arranged insurance but these things happen, not my place to judge ;)

it is "daft" to ride without insurance
even dafter to put yourself in a vulnerable position by riding through a speed trap in that position..

i'm not "judging" --leave that to the magistrate

It's hardly the crime of the century, especially as this was on a new bike. Not a habit.

It just makes me laugh to see people chastise people for breaches of the road traffic act when they themselves regularly contravene traffic law.

I'm assuming you don't obey all the rules of the road? Waste of a 999 if you do

Might break the rules. But at least i'm man enough to take the rap for it

[CvPiper]

Did he already have another motorcycle insurance policy If he does, it is likely that insurance will provide the minimum cover for the new vehicle in the "transition" from one to the other.

Does he have a car If so that policy is likely to provide 3rd party cover whilst driving another vehicle not registered in his name.

If he contests the ticket, why would they ask for insurance details

That said, as others have already commented - you make the choice to break the law, you have to accept the penalty of being caught Speeding ain't the end of the world, but if they get a sniff of no insurance he will be well and truly f****d (and rightly so) NO insurance company appreciates a driving without insurance wrap on the licence

Depending on the state of his licence (and the state of insurance cover), it may be best to roll with the punch, and be grateful for what he's got away with.

Other insurance is usually only valid if the vehicle in question is owned by someone else and also insured by them.

[triumph_taz]

The third party cover offered by private car policies does not cover bikes, only other cars. Also there is NO WAY that an insurance company can back date cover - it is against the law for them to do that.

Anybody who rides a bike without insurance is as well as being legally in the wrong, is also morally in the wrong. What if he had had an accident and injured (or possibly even killed) someone? Insurance is not there just to protect the person insured, but also to protect other people from the isnured.

At the end of the day, he should be thankfull that he was snapped by a camera and not by a copper as they would have been able to check the Motor Isnurance Database and instantly know if he was insured or not.

I would never ride a bike without the appropriate insurance in place. I bet if he was hit by an un-insured car driver he would not be happy!!!!

TAZ

[gurnE]

Might break the rules. But at least i'm man enough to take the rap for it

Man enough to take the rap or too spineless to fight it?



Nice avatar btw

[chris999]

Might break the rules. But at least i'm man enough to take the rap for it

Man enough to take the rap or too spineless to fight it?



Nice avatar btw

like i said its about choices....... if i were to choose to break the speed limit it would be upto me if to suffer the consequences if i were to get caught.....
i'm far from spineless

this is a forum .. by the very nature of it its about chat not chastising..

i've seen first hand the damage and devastation an unisured driver can inflict on a perfectly innocent family.........

you call me spineless outside this website i will rip your eyes out and skull f**k you..

NO excuse for not been insured
grow up and start taking responsibility..

[Maver-Nick]

i've seen first hand the damage and devastation an unisured driver can inflict on a perfectly innocent family.........

you call me spineless outside this website i will rip your eyes out and skull f**k you..

I've seen first hand the damage an insured driver can inflict too...
I'm not condoning not having insurance, but to the victim, money isn't much compensation.

As for the 2nd part of your statement...
Waahaay...that's the spirit... Seasons Greetings...

[chris999]

i've seen first hand the damage and devastation an unisured driver can inflict on a perfectly innocent family.........

you call me spineless outside this website i will rip your eyes out and skull f**k you..

I've seen first hand the damage an insured driver can inflict too...
I'm not condoning not having insurance, but to the victim, money isn't much compensation.

As for the 2nd part of your statement...
Waahaay...that's the spirit... Seasons Greetings...

seasons greetings to you too...

[jason]

if you get hit by an uninsured driver you will still get your money.

Insurers pay into a "pot" that is used whenever uninsured drivers are involved in accidents/claims.

uninsured drivers essentailly cost the rest of us money on our premiums to sponsor this. Although I bet if all the uninsured drivers in the UK suddenly insured themselves we wouldnt get a reduction in premium costs.

[chris999]

there would be no need to pay the money into a "pot" if everyone was insured !!

your ok if you are in your own vehicle and insured and one hits you .
but when you are an innocent 7 year old girl walking along with her family and some idiot (without insurance)mounts the pavement and drags her for 30 yards before coming to rest ....
the heartache is bad enough but when you compound the fact that he should not have been on the road and the painful ever reminding slog of trying to get some sort of compensation starts.. thats when it really starts

it is about the money.... you need it for time off work, special care , and all the adjustments that have to be made.. :

if it would help change someone minds to get insured i would gladly take you to meet the family

[jason]

well you definately cant argue against that.


(Not that I was condoning riding uninsured in the first place mind.)

[gurnE]

Might break the rules. But at least i'm man enough to take the rap for it

Man enough to take the rap or too spineless to fight it?



Nice avatar btw

like i said its about choices....... if i were to choose to break the speed limit it would be upto me if to suffer the consequences if i were to get caught.....
i'm far from spineless

this is a forum .. by the very nature of it its about chat not chastising..

i've seen first hand the damage and devastation an unisured driver can inflict on a perfectly innocent family.........

you call me spineless outside this website i will rip your eyes out and skull f**k you..

NO excuse for not been insured
grow up and start taking responsibility..

Careful, or I'll "unscrew your head and shit down your neck" Great film btw ;)

I'm not saying driving without insurance is acceptable, it's not.

All I was illustrating is that most people pass judgement on others for breaking the law when they themselves are law breakers.

We don't get to pick and choose the laws we abide

As for grow up and taking responsibility. Not fookin' likely. You get old gracefully if ya like. I shant

[chris999]

looking forward to meeting you...

[Jay]

My point is why break the law in the first place

[1blue]

the 14 day period will not apply in this case, there is no specific limit if DVLA do not have your details to give to plod. So he will probably get done for the speeding.

I don't think they cross check for insurance against each photo. So that will probably never come up.

But FFS get insurance before you ride, if your won't cover it and you cant get it covered, ask a mate who does have cover to ride it home.

[gixerdrew]

Tell your mate to pay the fine & count his lucky stars. Tell him to get insured even if it costs more than the bike.

I started off 23 years ago - bike cost £375, insurance was 50% at £175. But hey thats life!!