Right then, haven't paid enough attention to where this thread has been going ......
As we seem to be meeting at the services at 6.00, how's about a 6.15 departure time
Suggested route:
Ide, Longdown, Teign Valley road to Chudleigh Knighton, then either into Newton to meet Jak/Newton folks or they could come out to meet us at Drumbridges for 7.00 ish, then the old A38 to Caton, dual carriageway to Buckfastleigh, along the Dart valley road into totnes, then on into Paignton for around 7.30 - 7.45
If we go into Newton we can come back out on the Ashburton road, or direct to Totnes, either way add 15 mins or so
Oh, and forgot to say - if there are any non-motorway folk (Jace

) let me know and I'll give you an alternative place to meet us ........