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Stately wrote:I see.
Must be my computer then - I'm on dial up and some things can take a while to load.
Never mind.
So from page 38
Could you quote the part that states that "most bike accidents are caused by drivers"
Cheers

Its a pie chart.

Damn
I don't know why this link isn't working for me,
I really would like it to be the case that most accidents are caused by car drivers.
That pie chart must give a proportional representation of fault allocation.
So does it state clearly that MOST bike / car collissions are caused by car drivers ?

I think I just saw the information in that link by going to the website and viewing as an HTML.

If so, then this survey dies not provide conclusive evidence because it is a survey based on riders opinions, rather than actual fact.

The motorcycle accident database recorded who was to blame for the 1,790
accidents, splitting the accidents into five main categories. Rider 1 was the
motorcyclist involved in the accident. Driver 2 was the second vehicle involved in
the accident. The third category was where a pedestrian was to blame. The remaining two categories were joint/combined blame and other/unknown. The split
can be seen in Table 6.



Table 6: Primary blame for accidents on the motorcycle accident database
Primary blame No. of accidents % total (n ¼ 1,790)
Rider - 754 - 42.1%
Driver - 788 - 44.0%
Pedestrian - 35 - 1.9
Unclear/combined - 165 - 9.2
Other/not known - 48 - 2.7



Table 6 shows an even split of responsibility for accidents with driver 2 and rider 1
to blame in around 40% of the accidents, respectively. However, just under a third of
accidents suffered by motorcyclists did not involve a second vehicle and if these are
removed from the figures a slightly different picture emerges, as can be seen in
Table 7

Table 7: Primary blame for accidents on the motorcycle accident database after
the removal of single vehicle accidents
Primary blame No. of accidents % total (n ¼ 1,228)
Rider - 269 - 21.9%
Driver - 699 - 56.9%
Pedestrian - 4 - 0.3%
Unclear/combined - 144 - 11.72%



So in both cases, more accidents are caused by car drivers than motorcyclists. Direct copy and paste. So please be quiet

Cheese monkey that's a quality answer and should shut him up

how many of those involved in these stats were women that had been riding over 3 years?

Now that is an extremely important question and I feel that there should be studies conducted into this query.

Can't be many, surely they'd have all given up by then.....?

billinom8s wrote:how many of those involved in these stats were women that had been riding over 3 years?

That wins comment of the week for me.

Well done that man.

The same arrogant argumentative crap no matter what site...and jesus you've been banned from some feckin sites..when i get a weekend spare i'll post them on here just to let people know how many people you've actually pissed off...it's amazing what you're into...bit of a lonely nerd going of some the stuff you've been on...got ya James Bond gun yet Andy to go with ya James Bond movie bike...or did ya bore them to death with your crap about collectable watches?...Anyhow..Rumbled and bye bye Andyals

Cheese Monkey wrote:The motorcycle accident database recorded who was to blame for the 1,790
accidents, splitting the accidents into five main categories. Rider 1 was the
motorcyclist involved in the accident. Driver 2 was the second vehicle involved in
the accident. The third category was where a pedestrian was to blame. The remaining two categories were joint/combined blame and other/unknown. The split
can be seen in Table 6.



Table 6: Primary blame for accidents on the motorcycle accident database
Primary blame No. of accidents % total (n ¼ 1,790)
Rider - 754 - 42.1%
Driver - 788 - 44.0%
Pedestrian - 35 - 1.9
Unclear/combined - 165 - 9.2
Other/not known - 48 - 2.7



Table 6 shows an even split of responsibility for accidents with driver 2 and rider 1
to blame in around 40% of the accidents, respectively. However, just under a third of
accidents suffered by motorcyclists did not involve a second vehicle and if these are
removed from the figures a slightly different picture emerges, as can be seen in
Table 7

Table 7: Primary blame for accidents on the motorcycle accident database after
the removal of single vehicle accidents
Primary blame No. of accidents % total (n ¼ 1,228)
Rider - 269 - 21.9%
Driver - 699 - 56.9%
Pedestrian - 4 - 0.3%
Unclear/combined - 144 - 11.72%



So in both cases, more accidents are caused by car drivers than motorcyclists. Direct copy and paste. So please be quiet

Nothing conclusive there.
For a start this study is seven years old, which is an eternity in terms of statistical analysis.
Also, the study clearly concludes that blame is generally shared equally, give or take a few percent, which is what I said earlier.

Scorpion

I don't know who you think I am, but I assume that tirade of abuse was aimed at me ?

If so, then perhaps you'd like to show me what a tough guy you are away from the keyboard, and PM me.

Perhaps we can meet up and you can say all of that to my face.

Nah - didn't think so

Now why would it be aimed at you...you're not Andyals are ya?

scorpion wrote:Now why would it be aimed at you...you're not Andyals are ya?

No I'm not (whoever the hell Andals is)

So that wasn't aimed at me then.

Good.

Glad we cleared that up

Stately wrote:Nothing conclusive there.
For a start this study is seven years old, which is an eternity in terms of statistical analysis.
Also, the study clearly concludes that blame is generally shared equally, give or take a few percent, which is what I said earlier.

[Censored] lmao. No evidence of this type can ever be conclusive if you look at it that way. Car vs bike blame is attributed to the car more than the bike, doesnt matter whether its a few percent, it still is. Admit that you were wrong. It does take a man to admit that he was wrong I appreciate that. I'm wondering whether you are or just some keyboard warrior pussy


I would love to see you meet up with Scorpion that would be a laugh